[原创] FINAL FANTASY XIII の音乐评说 —— 系列历代BGM最差

哲勒

下面是引用fesyo于2010-01-03 04:14发表的:
您把跟我讲的跟这位先生也讲一遍,我就欣然接受,over

有意思 战这种东西一个巴掌拍不响 所有巴掌都悠着点 别把新闻区的习惯带到这里 泄泻 不然我只能请客出门了
这贴看在LZ码字份上 暂不处理
发现有任何升级状态任何处理不作通知

hujin

ismejks完全就是无理取闹
我还看到了Wish they made this more like Lost Odyssey...这样的帖子
这只能说明总有人喜欢拿过去来对比
不如也不会有人说
Hell no! Lost Odyssey was terrible.
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as you can see from the post, many players think that FF13 ost not bad, yup the word NOT BAD. but because it is FF so we are expecting higher.

and they mostly saying nobou's more on melodies while hamauzu is more on ambient music.

and for FF's unique and strength widely know for are melodies not ambient that's why many fans disappointed.



and because NOT BAD is not good enough for FF.

ovelia

下面是引用百姓点灯于2010-01-03 13:56发表的:

***小将你好，你可以查查字典什么叫strawman argument

我说的是“FF10里有一些植松作的曲子已经达到了恶心，不忍卒听的地步”，可以被你曲解成这样你也可以的

滨涡再怎么烂，至少到现在没有出现FF10里那几首明显侮辱听众智商和欣赏能力的曲子，要旋律没旋律，要技巧没技巧，要气氛没气氛，自动作曲机都比这个要好 甚至很多知名的vgm作曲家都没犯过这种事

有些人自己主观得不行，对植松崇拜得不行，一点都不能说不好 更要命的是，就跟那些神创论者一样，以为全世界的人都像自己那样主观那样下限，我只能说，你们错了。

P.S. 我只说FF10，这是因为即使是植松的其他几部作品，即使是PS时代产量巨高的时候，至少大部分曲目不会出现这种崩溃性的爆发。FF10之后植松明显去休息了一阵子，恐怕也是因为如此

如果你们想把我这种话说一半而不说绝的行为看成是“装客观”，那是你们的事情，因为你们已经弄昏了头不知道东西南北了

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@hujin

sorry but forum is made for sharing opinion,.....but please don't trying to counter and shoot down others, and saying me WU LI QI NAO.....you can hold your opinion and me also can as well. just sharing your expression but not shooting peoples.

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this is the topic creator if im not mistaken,

his post were very good because he sharing his feeling and felt bad, so he bashing the music at the first place. yes this opinion hold it place and many fans feeling too.

but he didn't counter anyone opinion. didn't he? that's somewhat very rational and nice.

ovelia

I would have to say that the whole Final Fantasy series has experienced and still experiencing a "Paradigm Shift" of sorts. Hamauzu is chosen because of his capability to score for this sort of game, while Uematsu would be best fit for something like Lost Odyssey which is a classic FF game with anything but name.

As for melodies, I think FFXIII is strong enough for that. The various songs are pretty memorable and I like humming the melodies when playing. I certainly can't do that easily with the last game but that's a wholly different story. The main title song would be easily a highlight.

But anyway, I thought those fans were already vastly disappointed with FFXII back in 2006, so this comes as quite a surprise ^_^

ovelia

下面是引用ismejks于2010-01-03 15:08发表的:
@□○△×

this is the topic creator if im not mistaken,

his post were very good because he sharing his feeling and felt bad, so he bashing the music at the first place. yes this opinion hold it place and many fans feeling too.
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Feeling bad不能构成标题结论的充足理由，因为“最差”包含了客观价值判断。表达意见固然是好的，但还是像我前面所说，不能因为某几个帖子的言论或者人气或者什么就代表***了。我之前具的rpgmm的例子本身不想证明什么，只是想说明这种论证方式的愚蠢而已。

即使大部分人不喜欢，这也不构成“最差”的理由。这时候送你一句话：

"Public opinion is often wrong, mob opinion is almost always wrong, [and] religious opinion is wrong by definition." -- Christopher Hitchens

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@ovelia

he didn't open for fabricate other opinion......TC just review

and for a review i think can classifies good or bad right?


how about if he change the topic to FF13 has the BEST OST in the series? like this it will be legitimate?

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下面是引用ovelia于2010-01-03 15:01发表的:


***小将你好，你可以查查字典什么叫strawman argument

我说的是“FF10里有一些植松作的曲子已经达到了恶心，不忍卒听的地步”，可以被你曲解成这样你也可以的
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谁是***小将，先别妄下定论，不论年龄还是玩ff的历史，你都未必超过我，还有你玩了几天ff10就觉得“FF10里有一些植松作的曲子已经达到了恶心，不忍卒听的地步”，难道不主观？我还觉得“FF10里滨涡正志有一些作的曲子已经达到了恶心，不忍卒听的地步”呢！