为啥老有人说PS5没有原生游戏？

phoenix83

因为他们认为ps5作为一代神机，画面超越4090，却拿不出4k60的次时代超级大作，属于不作为行为。

jocover

漫威蜘蛛侠2源代码都泄露了，DirectX 11 Shader的格式，而且PC版都可以通关了，原生directx 11的开发

kiskaddon

索尼主要这代主机素质高， 隔壁又那个衰样， 所以确实有点躺平的资本

电子产品总有 封闭和开放  两类偏好的用户， pc不可能干得死ps，只有主机才能消灭主机。

天天看他们哇哇叫 喊转pc， 现实是 ps5上半场没怎么发力 都已经超过ps4了， 你就说惯性 也没法解释吧， 惯性哪有势能越来越大的？

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战区都盖到600多楼了，还搁这讨论呢

沙条绫香

因为有些人觉得发明一个狗 屁不通的新词显得coooool，就像前几年有些脑子不好的拿PS5的“激活量”说事，一查来源，原来是在说PS5免费小机器人游戏的奖杯获得率。所谓PS5原生游戏，可以说对应PS5主机特性，例如120Hz显示，40帧模式，PS5手柄适配的全都是PS5原生游戏，而这些游戏从2020年PS5发售的那一刻就开始有了。

咪姆

古典克里斯 发表于 2024-07-12 11:06
除了法环都算不上T0

收收味好吗

ponyxbot

jocover 发表于 2024-7-12 12:22
漫威蜘蛛侠2源代码都泄露了，DirectX 11 Shader的格式，而且PC版都可以通关了，原生directx 11的开发[s:joy ...

贴几段来看看呢

jocover

ponyxbot 发表于 2024-7-12 13:17
贴几段来看看呢

[2023-08-02 16:58:52.025 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [AmmRing] AMM Heap Initialized to 2.68 GB (2742.00 MB).
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.026 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]             Phys DMEM Offset Range   [0x000000009cc00000, 0x0000000148200000]
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.030 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]             Virt Addr Range          [0x0000080000000000, 0x0000088000000000]
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.030 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]             MultiMap Virt Addr Range [0x0000088000000000, 0x0000088000000000]
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.031 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.031 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [AmprRing] Fences for m_SubmitStates = 0x00000010d7fac000-0x00000010d7fad000
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.032 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [QueueVersion] Registered AmmHighPriority 0x0000000043c07f98.
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.032 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Debug wait text fence High = 0x0000000043c07f90
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.033 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Debug wait version fence High = 0x0000000043c07f88
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.033 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [AmprRing] Fences for m_SubmitStates = 0x00000010d7fb4000-0x00000010d7fb4800
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.034 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [QueueVersion] Registered AmmNormalPriority 0x0000000043c07f80.
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.034 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Debug wait text fence Normal = 0x0000000043c07f78
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.035 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Debug wait version fence Normal = 0x0000000043c07f70
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.035 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [AmprRing] Fences for m_SubmitStates = 0x00000010d7fbc000-0x00000010d7fbc800
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.036 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [QueueVersion] Registered AmmLowPriority 0x0000000043c07f68.
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.036 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Debug wait text fence Low = 0x0000000043c07f60
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.037 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Debug wait version fence Low = 0x0000000043c07f58
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.037 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [StreamingHeap] Using 5.56 MB (5828736 bytes) for 80000 allocs and 16000 deferred releases.
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.038 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [RenderDevice] Feature level D3D 11.1
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.038 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [GpuFence] Fence Label/Version fence = 0x0000001196c24040
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.039 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [GpuFence] Fence Label/Version fence = 0x0000001197044040
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.039 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [GpuFence] Fence Label/Version fence = 0x0000001197058040
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.040 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [GpuFence] Fence Label/Version fence = 0x000000119706c040
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.040 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [ResourceNaming] PA Debug is required for human-readable names to show up in debugging and reporting tools. Use Target Settings to enable it. Naming is basically a big hashmap, so this will use extra memory.
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.041 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] sizeof(D3D11ShaderResourceView) == 136
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.043 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] sizeof(D3D11RenderTargetView) == 224
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.044 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] sizeof(D3D11UnorderedAccessView) == 128
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.044 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] sizeof(D3D11DepthStencilView) == 224
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.045 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.045 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] Adapter Description:
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.046 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]   AMD Radeon Navi (VendorId 0)
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.047 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]   Dedicated VideoMemory:        0.00 MB
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.047 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]   Dedicated System Memory:      0.00 MB
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.048 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]   Shared System Memory:     12406.00 MB
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.048 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout]
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.049 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] Gpu allocation of 12582912 bytes (owner DebugDynamicPrimList) failed because GPU_HEAP_TYPE_DEBUG is not available
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.049 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [DebugDynamicPrimList] Alloc failed: 12582912 bytes
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.050 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [SceLncService] launchApp(NPXS40093)
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.050 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [SceLncService] category={gdg} appCategoryType={0x03000000} isVRMode={0}
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.051 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [SceLncService] hnm,psnf,pc,tk,ns,pf,htm,se,ts={1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0} appBootMode={-1}
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.051 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [SceLncService] appType={SCE_LNC_APP_TYPE_CDLG} [] appVer={} contentVersion={} appCategoryType={0x03000000}
[2023-08-02 16:58:52.052 ig_qaeng_6.task-0.stdout] [SceLncService] Num. of logged-in users is 1

其实HLSL转PSSL要点在PS5的SDK里手册里都有介绍

拿瓶阔落

ponyxbot 发表于 2024-7-12 13:17
贴几段来看看呢

这个倒是真的，已经在网上流传了一段时间，而且还更新的。

不过问题很多的，始终是民间版本，和PS5版差得不是一星半点

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古典克里斯 发表于 2024-7-12 11:06
除了法环都算不上T0

哦，那大概星空是T-1，疯婆娘是T-65535?