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 楼主| 发表于 2007-12-23 13:08  ·  湖南 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
视频都是出自Operation Sports的Valuable Guides这篇帖子http://forums.operationsports.co ... thread.php?t=227706,如果英文不错可以自己去看看,毕竟我的翻译不见得就准确,如果有错误的地方也请大家指出
首先以2k视点为例,这样篮筐就永远在屏幕上方,然后面对屏幕假想一个时钟,12点钟方向是上方,6点钟是下方,左边是9点钟,右边是3点钟,一下操作都是球员正面面对篮筐,如果球员不是正对篮筐,那rs方向由球员面对方向决定

我打过补丁,所以有些变化,如果没打过补丁的可以去看看我的那篇rs解析。
打过补丁之后,操作上没有太大变化,最明显的是多了几个犯规动作……
上篮动作有很大变化,首先去掉了Spinning Layup,其次如果没有甩开贴防的对手强行上篮,不管rs向哪个方向,上篮动作都只有少数,最常见的就是身体倾斜,持球手伸长的上篮,就是现实中chris paul经常用的那个上篮动作。然后就是拉杆,拉杆一般不会进……然后就是背身勾手……
rs向12点这个操作明显不如之前好用了,容易被封盖,其次是按住RT上篮不好用了,容易被盖……


背打POST PLAY,之前没翻译,现在稍微翻译一下
最基本的
rs向上12点是勾手,向下6点是后仰,3点/9点是向侧面转身跳投
RT+rs向上12点还是勾手,向下6点还是后仰
rs向持球手是向篮下突,如果位置好就是扣篮,不好就是上篮,但是如果打过补丁,而且你的球员的背打能力不高,很多时候是个向篮下跨一步然后双手上篮,这个动作基本不是被犯规就是被盖,基本没进过,不知道是不是我的slider里面close shot偏低
rs向持球手是倚人转身,转身成功率完全是由球员背打能力off low post和防守球员背打防守能力def low post决定的
这个是我原来翻译的那篇《Basket Relative FAQ or "What UP means."》的作者notque错误的地方,不信自己去实际操作一下
另外其次背打转身还有一招成功率很高,就是rt+y drop step

Up and Unders不知道怎么翻译,呵呵,就称为梦幻舞步吧~
这个根本不用去记操作,只要记住第一下rs是假动作,第二下rs才决定上篮的方向,比如你在篮筐的左下方,lt倚住对方,rs向左斜下大概7/8点钟方向轻点,然后rs向篮筐方向(应该就是1/2点钟方向)按住不放,你的球员就会起手一个假投篮,然后转身从防守球员腋下钻过去上篮,其他方向依此类推
Up and Unders的关键在于第一下rs要轻点,如果重了就直接出手了,第二下rs要迅速而且要方向要按住了,不然慢了或者点轻了系统就认定第二次方向直接出手了……当然,第二下按住时间不要太长了,不然老不出手会被帽的,这个自己慢慢体会吧,这里有段视频,可以自己去看看
http://www.***.com/watch?v=vS5sKWZCbVI


包夹dt更简单,包夹方就是lb,然后狂点a,被包夹方就lb,也是狂点a(需不需要按lb我都怀疑,因为我只按a也能传出来)……反正补丁之后dt是削弱了,但是在有些在网上对战的人说dt还是有问题,抱歉我是用d版,不敢网战…….

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-12-23 13:10  ·  湖南 | 显示全部楼层
名单更新(是由2K Freak 的doe boy fresh 提供的,我只是总结了一下)另外其实网上更新名单不需要金会员,我是银会员一样更新,只要连上live后,进入2k8,在xbox live菜单中的download就行了 ,当然,要冒被ban的风险
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team silder,这是Operation Sports上的Beetlebum自己根据www.82games.com的数据设置的team silder,目的是让球队的打发更像现实中,从模拟比赛来看还不错,用不用大家自己看吧
另外要提醒的一点是team silder不是保存在game setting里面的,而是保存在Rosters里面的,如果有人想用又有点担心,大可另存个rosters

GAME TEMPO
Dallas23  Detroit5  San Antonio8  Cleveland29  Minnesota28  Charlotte19      New Jersey16  New York24  LA Clippers48  Milwaukee19  Portland12  New Orleans15  Boston24  Houston21  Atlanta13  Washington32  Miami23  Toronto17  Philadelphia13  Orlando57  Sacramento44  Utah48  Memphis45  Chicago28 Seattle73  LA Lakers68  Golden State77  Indiana80  Phoenix75  Denver95

CRASH BOARDS
Miami23  Orlando26  Phoenix26  Portland35  Memphis36  Toronto36 Sacramento39  Boston41  LA Clippers42  San Antonio42  New Orleans42      New Jersey42  Denver43  Dallas50  Seattle51  Golden State54  LA Lakers57  Indiana59  Detroit65  Minnesota72  Houston75  Chicago75  Milwaukee76 Cleveland77  Utah78  Atlanta79  Charlotte81  Washington83  New York87 Philadelphia90

FASTBREAK
Portland25  Houston29  LA Clippers31  Minnesota35  Utah36  New York36      LA Lakers38  Charlotte38  Miami42  Detroit42  Sacramento46  San Antonio46 Seattle46  Indiana46  Atlanta46  Boston47  New Orleans48  Chicago48 Cleveland48  Toronto49  Milwaukee51  New Jersey52  Dallas52  Orlando55 Memphis56  Philadelphia56  Washington60  Phoenix66  Denver73  Golden State80


DEFENSIVE PRESSURE
Minnesota5  Memphis15  Milwaukee15  New York15  Portland20  Cleveland20 Charlotte25  Sacramento30  Golden State30  Washington30  Dallas35  Seattle35 Miami40  Toronto40  New Jersey40  Indiana40  Atlanta40  Philadelphia40 Phoenix45  LA Clippers45  LA Lakers45  Utah45  San Antonio50  Detroit50    New Orleans55  Houston55  Orlando60  Denver60  Chicago60  Boston90


POUND THE BALL INSIDE
Indiana25  Toronto27  LA Clippers27  Portland28  San Antonio28    Detroit28 New Orleans30  Phoenix31  Miami32  Sacramento33  New Jersey33  Boston34 Washington34  Orlando35  Memphis35  Denver35  Dallas35  Houston35 Chicago35  Cleveland35  Seattle36  Philadelphia36  Atlanta37  Minnesota38 Charlotte38  LA Lakers39  Golden State41  Milwaukee41  New York41  Utah42


LOOK FOR POST PLAYERS
Philadelphia10  Sacramento20  Denver20  New Jersey25  Dallas30          Golden State30  Houston30  Chicago30  LA Lakers35  Phoenix40  Seattle40 Indiana40  Detroit40  Charlotte40  Boston45  New Orleans45  Atlanta50       San Antonio55  Milwaukee55  Washington60  Orlando65  Miami70  Portland70 Toronto70  Minnesota70  Cleveland75  Memphis80  LA Clippers80      Utah80 New York85


SETTLE FOR JUMPERS
Utah58  Golden State59  Milwaukee59  New York59  LA Lakers61  Minnesota62 Charlotte62  Atlanta63  Seattle64  Philadelphia64  Orlando65  Memphis65 Denver65  Dallas65  Houston65  Chicago65  Cleveland65  Boston66 Washington66  Sacramento67  New Jersey67  Miami68  Phoenix69             New Orleans70  Portland72  San Antonio72  Detroit72  Toronto73  LA Clippers73 Indiana75


RELY ON 3 point SHOTS
Utah46  Seattle51  Atlanta57  Philadelphia58  Milwaukee59  New York62  Miami63  Sacramento64  Portland66  Detroit66  Chicago68  LA Clippers69 Charlotte69  Washington70  Minnesota71  Dallas74  LA Lakers74  New Jersey77 Boston78  Cleveland78  Denver80  Houston81  Toronto83   San Antonio84 Memphis85  New Orleans85  Indiana85  Phoenix96  Orlando99   Golden State99


1-ON-1
Utah10  Phoenix12  Boston14  Detroit16  Toronto18  Denver18  San Antonio19 Golden State20  Indiana20  New Jersey21  LA Lakers21  Milwaukee22  Memphis23  Orlando25  New Orleans27  Seattle27  Houston27  Cleveland27 Portland28  Philadelphia28  LA Clippers29  Dallas29  Chicago29  Minnesota31 Charlotte31  Washington31  Miami33  Atlanta33  New York42   Sacramento45

TEND TO OVERDRIBBLE
Add 5 to every team

USE FINESSE INSIDE
Miami35  Orlando5  Phoenix50  Portland50  Memphis20  Toronto65  Sacramento50  Boston65  LA Clippers80  San Antonio80  New Orleans80      New Jersey50  Denver20  Dallas65  Seattle35  Golden State65  LA Lakers20 Indiana80  Detroit50  Minnesota80  Houston65  Chicago65  Milwaukee65 Cleveland65  Utah35  Atlanta35  Charlotte50  Washington50  New York50 Philadelphia35

FINISH STRONG INSIDE
Miami65  Orlando95  Phoenix50  Portland50  Memphis80  Toronto35 Sacramento50  Boston35  LA Clippers20  San Antonio20  New Orleans20      New Jersey50  Denver80  Dallas35  Seattle65  Golden State35  LA Lakers80 Indiana20  Detroit50  Minnesota20  Houston35  Chicago35  Milwaukee35 Cleveland35  Utah65  Atlanta65  Charlotte50  Washington50  New York50 Philadelphia65

FOLLOW MISSED SHOTS
reduce to half the original slider (example from 50 to 25 or from 40 to 20)

PRONE TO FOUL
Phoenix38  Detroit40  Miami41  San Antonio41  New Orleans43  Orlando46 Memphis47  Toronto48  Atlanta48  Portland50  Houston50  LA Lakers54         LA Clippers57  Washington58  Philadelphia59  Denver60  Sacramento64  Dallas69 Milwaukee70  Golden State77  Cleveland79  New York81  Boston84  Seattle85 Charlotte88  New Jersey90  Chicago90  Utah91  Minnesota93  Indiana98


REACH ON DEFENSE
Every team at 85

CONTEST SHOTS
New York18  Sacramento20  New Orleans25  Portland32  Toronto34  Orlando36 Seattle36  Charlotte36  Utah38  Houston39  Philadelphia39  Boston42          LA Lakers42  Chicago42  Miami48  Minnesota50  Golden State52  LA Clippers53 Memphis54  Milwaukee54  San Antonio56  Detroit56  Washington56  Cleveland59 Phoenix62  New Jersey62  Indiana66  Dallas70  Atlanta70  Denver74

Beetlebum自己制作的silder调整工具,用法就是用自己数据和他的对比,然后确定调整方向,个人觉得要多打几场,因为数据是有浮动的,然后再调整,另外里面有他的silder设置,可以自己看看
下载地址http://forums.operationsports.co ... thread.php?t=230925

我的silder设置纯属自己好玩,仅供参考
Diffi***y: superstar
Quarter Length: 12Run The Play: Auto
Defense Play Set: Auto w/Msg
Right Stick Defense: Absolute
Late Game Fouling: Manual
Substitution Method: Rotation
Fatigue: On
Injuries: On
Player Lock: Off
Clutch Factor: On
Real Player FT%: Off
Game Speed: 40(45如果觉得慢)
Free Throw Diffi***y: 50

USER/CPU

Shooting
Close Shot 43/38(我水平不行,cpu如果打到篮下基本都进,没办法……不这样每场pts in print都高达60……)
Mid Range 48/48
3 Point 51/50
Dunk 49/49
Layup 48/47
Dunk in Traffic 15/15

Defense
Steal Success 55/50(个人觉得steal不能低了,低了基本就看不到断球快攻,少了种乐趣)
Collision 70/70
Pick Success 65/65
Pick Strength 55/55

Attributes
Stealing 50/50
Blocking 65/50(自己的防守不行啊,只有靠这个,呵呵)
Ball Handling 40/35(制造更多的带球失误,不然整场没几个失误)
Dunk Ability 40/35
Off. Awareness 60/60
Def. Awareness 80/80
Off. Rebounds 55/50
Def. Rebounds 55/50
Chance Injury 60/60
Injury Effect 68/68(2k7就照着版主设置的,2k8也没变)
Clutch Factor 30/25
Fatigue 52/52 (本来想设置高点,这样3、4节得分会少点,这样能抑制高比分出现,结果发现体力下降快了,防守削弱幅度比进攻还大,比分更高……)

Tendencies
Shoots Inside 50/35(没办法,cpu内线得分恐怖)
Shoots Mid 50/60
Shoots 3 Pt 50/55
Attacks Basket 50/50
Attempts Dunk 40/40
Back to Basket 50/50
Triple Threat 50/60
Hook Shot 50/50
Att. Put Back 55/53(Beetlebum觉得补篮多,我倒觉得补篮少了,1场下来2个都不到)
Flashy Passes 20/20
Commits Fouls 70/70
Passing Lanes 50/50
On Ball Steals 50/50
Contests Shot 75/75
Sizeup Moves 50/55

Fouls
Charging 100
Blocking 100
Reach 80
Shooting 90
Loose Ball Foul 100

另外个人兴趣
出手球比较高的球员 Nowitzki, M. James, L. James, B. Gordon, Luke Walton
出手球比较平的Kobe, McGrady
其他的希望大家统计出来,呵呵,这是点个人兴趣

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发表于 2007-12-23 13:33  ·  重庆 | 显示全部楼层
反正我只是感觉小麦扣篮很不容易出

比起2K7

有人的话基本出不了
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发表于 2007-12-25 22:05  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
这帖子不错啊,怎么就不++分呢

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发表于 2007-12-26 02:25  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
终于等到lz的新帖子了,lz也辛苦了,强烈支持你的帖子
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发表于 2007-12-26 09:43  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
我靠 标题就进来顶你了~~

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发表于 2007-12-26 09:51  ·  四川 | 显示全部楼层
梦幻舞步我只能做一次虚晃后上篮,我看电脑可以晃3次+钩手,不知道怎么弄得。
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发表于 2007-12-26 10:50  ·  广东 | 显示全部楼层
感觉梦幻舞步不太真实..什么球员都能做得出来.而成攻率很高..
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羡慕楼主英语那么好 可以去外国论坛交流 !!!原来鬼佬可以操作那么自然 厉害~
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