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发表于 2009-2-18 14:59  ·  黑龙江 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用shanbing999于2009-02-18 14:52发表的:



如果機子沒手術 1.保內 換機給你 有高機率拿到175W的(你本來是203W的喔)
               2.保外 貼錢換新機
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呵。依我看你不过就是个小白。

微软在大陆有保修么?

就算在外国有保修的地方。质量差有保修和质量好不用修你选哪个?

你买个电饭锅,一个质量好的。一个质量差的,店家承诺给你保三年。你买哪个?

你也要有常识呀~呵呵。

帖钱换新机?


你会不会做买卖的?我卖你个次品。等你坏了要你帖钱来换。你觉得就跟质量好不用换的正品一样了?

你真是RQ啊
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:00  ·  澳大利亚 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用0094于2009-02-18 14:50发表的:

哦。店家直接给你保三年得了。MS保的三年你又享受不到的。微软在大陆没设保修。别自己骗自己了
你怎么知道我在大陆啊?
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:02  ·  黑龙江 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用平井二夫于2009-02-18 15:00发表的:

你怎么知道我在大陆啊?
呵呵。你在不在大陆有什么关系?你不在大陆就理亏了。

你明明不在大陆。却在大陆的论坛上发言。你了解大陆的国情么?你了解大陆的RF处境么?

了解大陆的情况么?你都不了解。

那你发个什么言啊?你发的言还有什么代表性和意义?

站着说话不腰疼。不是我说。换个红过的RF,也会这样对你说
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:02  ·  澳大利亚 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用0094于2009-02-18 14:59发表的:

呵。依我看你不过就是个小白。

微软在大陆有保修么?

.......
那请你解释一下,为什么PS3和XO的差距越来越大啊.从500万到800万也就3个月.
这300万都卖到大陆来了?
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:03  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
现在还有人关心三红吗?一红才是主流


Well, I took the plunge. I bought an Xbox 360. As you can tell, the results were complete amazing. Overwhelmingly positive. Right out of the box, the damn thing was dead. A 300 dollar plastic brick. Hell, it was less useful than a brick - it's too big to fit in my damn wall!

I should rephrase: overwhelmingly positive in confirming my belief that PC's are and will remain more successful and entertaining than the Xbox 360. Why? Because no PC manufacturer could get away with the crap that Microsoft pulls.
Imagine for a moment that you are selling a product. In order to make it fit inside the pretty package you spent hundreds of thousands of dollars designing, you have to change one of the parts that is what keeps it functioning. For the sake of argument, let's pretend it's a heat sink. You shrink a heat sink to get a disc drive into a pretty computer case, then bill the case as a fully functioning product, ready to be used.
As well, rather than using tried and true methods to solder connections on the motherboard of your product, you adopt one that is cheaper but guaranteed to be less reliable.
Toss in the fact that your first few updates for this case will cause it not just to crash, but become completely unusable spontaneously.
Your PR department never mentions this in public, of course. That would be fiscal suicide. Instead, you deny claims that there is widespread failure, and insist that tests done on your system were not disclosed to you so you can't say that there is a problem. That one's easy.
Sound familiar? It shouldn't! No worthwhile product manufacturer has failure rates this high and still does good business. It's a good bet that any other product this company sells is probably gonna start looking like crap as well. Don't just take my word for it, either.
How is it good business practice to sell a product that initially has a one in three failure rate? That's right kids - EB Games, Best Buy, and Gamestop all reported between a 30% and 33% failure rate for the Xbox 360. Why would these companies lie? If you're selling the 360, you don't want it to fail. There is no reason to expect that these figures were false.
Wait, says Joe 360, this problem was solved! The new "falcon" and "jasper" motherboards in the 360 solved these problems, so stop complaining that you bought a 300 dollar plastic brick!

No, it didn't. So far, no less than three software updates have caused the infamous "Red Rings of Death" (RRoD) on perfectly functioning consoles previously. Some of these patches were meant as fixes to earlier patches that caused sound or video failure. The February 3rd, 2009 patch has caused E74 and RRoD errors on even the new "Jasper" chipsets. Great.

Microsoft is getting sued over this, but I don't think that's enough. The fact that consumers are being consistently punished for financially supporting fraudulent claims of success is absurd and terrifying. The Better Business Bureau's 2008 statistics for highest complaints shows us that electronics parts, electronics retailers, and internet companies (all subsets that contain Microsoft, by the way) are higher than computer parts manufacturers.
Extrapolate what you want from that. No wait, don't. Take it for what it is: clear statistical evidence that this kind of consumer treatment has got to stop.

Food companies that sell products that make 30% of their customers sick go out of business, or get sued by the FDA. Transportation companies that have huge failure rates, like Orbitz, are going bankrupt. Why is Microsoft the exception here? For god's sake, do your cravings for video games outweigh good common sense?! If your console fails, it is not your fault, and you do not have to take it. Microsoft's supposed "solutions" to this problem are crap.

An extended warranty? Really? An extra month, gee, how nice. Clearly, adding 30 days to your 90 day warranty will help keep your consoles from failing. New motherboards that can be bricked by software updates are obviously the way to go. British company Micromart has stopped repairing 360 consoles entirely, seeing as how they got close to 2500 repair requests per day. 2500 people, every day, complaining that their Xbox has failed. You're telling me this is a false statistic? Please.

Buy a PC, kids, but don't put Vista on it. Better yet, buy a new Mac and use Boot Camp to run your games. They're more reliable, better looking, and at least Apple will continue to repair your product even if you put in a fan that requires opening the case. Sorry, forgot to mention that one: any time you open the case of an Xbox 360, you void the warranty. If you add a fan pack to it, it voids the warranty. Anything that could lead you to discover why your console has failed voids the warranty, which means that for a big pack of people Microsoft doesn't have to do anything about RRoD.

To compensate you if you do still have your fix-all warranty and you get your console replaced, Microsoft offers a free 1-month subscription to their online service, Xbox Live. WOW. You get a $15.00 gift card for a service that Sony offers you for free. Use Steam on a PC, that one's free too. It also won't brick your case if it updates itself to fix an error as often.

What happened to the America that was "mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore?" I've already filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. I suggest you work up the guts and do the same if you're tired of being treated like garbage.
The closest a PC user can come to this experience is by buying a Dell. Dell uses their own case and motherboard form, so upgrading is pretty much impossible without the company's help. Still, Dell's don't sell computers that fail 1 out of 3 purchases. Stick with PC, fellow gamers. It'll lead you true.
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:03  ·  黑龙江 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用平井二夫于2009-02-18 15:02发表的:

那请你解释一下,为什么PS3和XO的差距越来越大啊.从500万到800万也就3个月.
这300万都卖到大陆来了?
你自己看不明白还要我解释?

这种机会可只有一次哦。我不喜欢和没常识的人说太多话。

微软重视每年的商战。又牺牲质量,拆分功能组件在圣诞期间用超低价。

08年前八个月看看是什么情况?

你做RQ也要做得有点水平才行
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:04  ·  上海 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用密码老错于2009-02-18 14:52发表的:


真强大的理论啊,,,,很无语,没三红的xo 在前2年内就能***ps3???索尼是没头脑企业?集团的人都是***?
有一种效果叫多米尼效果,比如2个跑100米,如果差1秒,那第二位的人还有劲追,如果差2秒,那他的“士气“会小很多。如果差3秒以上。那他基本会放弃。拿到现实的商业例子,就是,SONY现在还是很有精力来追微软,但是如果讲到老任,那就马上说那不是在一个世界。这就是区别,如果微软的主机和PS3达到某一个差,PS3会说,我们有我们自己的独特的市场定位和战略。反之也一样。
而另一方面说,如果没有三红,那三红的维修费花到游戏开发或宣传或买游戏上来都是非常可观的费用(也有10亿了吧)。
当然这些都是如果,实际情况就是花钱买了一个教训。
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发表于 2009-2-18 15:05  ·  澳大利亚 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用0094于2009-02-18 15:02发表的:

呵呵。你在不在大陆有什么关系?你不在大陆就理亏了。

你明明不在大陆。却在大陆的论坛上发言。你了解大陆的国情么?你了解大陆的RF处境么?

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按你的理论,以后A9别发什么国外新闻了.版主一律用国内的.

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发表于 2009-2-18 15:05  ·  台湾 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用0094于2009-02-18 14:59发表的:

呵。依我看你不过就是个小白。

微软在大陆有保修么?

.......

我們是以已經買了的人立場來說
大陸沒保修 你沒辦法想呀?
大家都不想機子有問題 有問題了就看售後維修服務
我PS3 60G韌體更新狂當
送去維修 當場另外有5個人跟我一樣問題的
得到的答案皆是:這是個案
要我花錢換無相容PS2的PS3 你怎麼說?

電子產品嘛 焉有不出問題的(不過像MS這樣確實該托出去...)
買電子產品為什麼要買大廠啊?
有一大因素不就是售後服務嗎?
如果你360也沒PS3也沒那就當我說廢話得了

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发表于 2009-2-18 15:06  ·  天津 | 显示全部楼层
微软这种打人一拳然后带你去看病的举动真是被不少人津津乐道
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