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标题: [奖杯] SAW II: Flesh & Blood / 电锯惊魂2 [打印本页]

作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-23 06:15
标题: [奖杯] SAW II: Flesh & Blood / 电锯惊魂2


铜杯:

Start with the Corners  
Found your first puzzle piece
Puzzle of Flesh  
Found 1/4 of the puzzle pieces
Starting to come together  
Found 1/2 of the puzzle pieces
Paper-Mache  
Found your first Billy Puppet
A Little Background  
Found your first Case file
Some light reading  
Found 1/4 of the Case Files
Half the story  
Found 1/2 of the Case Files
Play ME!  
Found your first Audio Tape
Mix Tape  
Found 1/4 of the Audio Tapes
Easy Listening  
Found 1/2 of the Audio Tapes
Router  
Beat the best time for the Point to Point Minigame (Normal)
P2P  
Beat the best time for the Point to Point Minigame (Insane)
Electrician  
Beat the best time for the Polarized Circuit Minigame (Normal)
Jury Rig  
Beat the best time for the Polarized Circuit Minigame (Insane)
Chromatic  
Beat the best time for the Kaleidoscope Minigame (Normal)
Thinking Three Steps Ahead  
Beat the best time for the Kaleidoscope Minigame (Insane)
Gear Grinder  
Beat the best time for the Jigsaw Box Minigame (Normal)
Mechanic  
Beat the best time for the Jigsaw Box Minigame (Insane)
Running like Clockwork  
Beat the best time for the Weapon Case Minigame (Normal)
Second Amendment  
Beat the best time for the Weapon Case Minigame (Insane)
Tumbler  
Beat the best time for the Dial Puzzle Minigame (Normal)
Forced Perspective  
Beat the best time for the Dial Puzzle Minigame (Insane)
Connect the dots...  
Beat the best time for the Lights Out Minigame (Normal)
Burned Out  
Beat the best time for the Lights Out Minigame (Insane)
Smooth Criminal  
Beat the best time for the Lockpick Minigame (Normal)
Master Thief  
Beat the best time for the Lockpick Minigame (Insane)

银杯:

Putting it all together  
Found all 25 puzzle pieces
Puppeteer  
Found all 7 Billy Puppets
Journalist  
Found all 50 Case Files
Reel to Real  
Found all 20 Audio Tapes

白金:

Congratulations  
Acquired all trophies

20隐藏,未知,见10楼

1作挺神,期待2作,希望20隐藏里多点金杯.
作者: nbshj001    时间: 2010-10-23 10:18
这么多铜杯在,估计金杯很少了
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-23 10:50
说反了吧,铜杯在游戏里算少的。。。。。。才26个
而且银杯也很少
所以我猜20隐藏里会有不少金杯
作者: tgfcer0116    时间: 2010-10-23 12:10
标题: Re:
本作没上代神!!![Replied by WAP]
作者: satosi    时间: 2010-10-23 14:31
01. Henry Jacobs 30 G Checkpoint [SECRET]
Freed Henry from the trap
02. Sarah Blalock 30 G Checkpoint [SECRET]
Freed Sarah from the trap
03. Joseph Poltzer 30 G Checkpoint [SECRET]
Freed Joseph from the trap
04. Carla Song 30 G Checkpoint [SECRET]
Freed Carla from the trap
05. Solomon Bates 30 G Checkpoint [SECRET]
Freed Solomon from the trap
06. Battering Ram 15 G Event [SECRET]
Defeated "The Bullish Man"
07. Now THAT'S using your head! 15 G Event [SECRET]
Escaped "The Bullish Man"
08. Third time's the charm 15 G Event [SECRET]
Subdued the "Bullish Man"
09. Hedgehog's Dilemma 15 G Event [SECRET]
Donovan died
10. Firefighter 15 G Event [SECRET]
Barry died
11. Did I fire 6 shots or only 5... 15 G Event [SECRET]
Joseph died
12. Hands off 15 G Event [SECRET]
Zeke died
13. Start with the Corners 15 G Completion
Found your first puzzle piece
14. Puzzle of Flesh 15 G Completion
Found 1/4 of the puzzle pieces
15. Starting to come together 15 G Completion
Found 1/2 of the puzzle pieces
16. Putting it all together 30 G Completion
Found all the puzzle pieces
17. Paper-Mache 15 G Completion
Found your first Billy Puppet
18. Puppeteer 30 G Completion
Found all 7 Billy Puppets
19. A Little Background 15 G Completion
Found your first Case File
20. Some light reading 15 G Completion
Found 1/4 of the Case Files
21. Half the story 15 G Completion
Found 1/2 of the Case Files
22. Journalist 30 G Completion
Found all the Case Files
23. Play ME! 15 G Completion
Found your first Audio Tape
24. Mix Tape 15 G Completion
Found 1/4 of the Audio Tapes
25. Easy Listening 15 G Completion
Found 1/2 of the Audio Tapes
26. Reel to Real 30 G Completion
Found all of the Audio Tapes
27. Router 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Point to Point Minigame (Normal)
28. P2P 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Point to Point Minigame (Insane)
29. Electrician 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Polarized Circuit Minigame (Normal)
30. Jury Rig 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Polarized Circuit Minigame (Insane)
31. Chromatic 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Kaleidoscope Minigame (Normal)
32. Thinking Three Steps Ahead 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Kaleidoscope Minigame (Insane)
33. Gear Grinder 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Jigsaw Box Minigame (Normal)
34. Mechanic 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Jigsaw Box Minigame (Insane)
35. Running like Clockwork 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Weapon Case Minigame (Normal)
36. Second Amendment 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Weapon Case Minigame (Insane)
37. Tumbler 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Dial Puzzle Minigame (Normal)
38. Forced Perspective 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Dial Puzzle Minigame (Insane)
39. Connect the dots... 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Lights Out Minigame (Normal)
40. Burned Out 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Lights Out Minigame (Insane)
41. Smooth Criminal 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Lockpick Minigame (Normal)
42. Master Thief 15 G Completion
Beat the best time for the Lockpick Minigame (Insane)
43. Compassion 15 G Completion [SECRET]
Saved a person that you didn't have to
44. Would you like to play a game? 15 G Completion [SECRET]
Completed the Eye Surgery Minigame
45. You wasted your life 15 G Other [SECRET]
Played on Christmas
46. It must be SAW 15 G Other [SECRET]
Played on Halloween
47. Path of Blood 75 G Completion [SECRET]
Campbell survived his test
48. Path of Flesh 70 G Completion [SECRET]
Campbell did not survive his test
49. Brought to you by,... 15 G Event [SECRET]
Watch the credits without skipping
50. Old School 15 G Event [SECRET]
Entered the legendary Konami Code

code U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R, B, A, Start
作者: satosi    时间: 2010-10-23 14:32
顺便说下,既没有中文说明,也没有功略,只是搬运工的话,意义不大
作者: 泡泡温泉    时间: 2010-10-23 14:44
这次一般要两周目,时间大概在15-20小时。
解密和收集部分可以参照成就攻略,某站已经有了好几天了
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-23 18:02
下面是引用satosi于23-10-2010 14:32发表的:
顺便说下,既没有中文说明,也没有功略,只是搬运工的话,意义不大

你这话说的,对你意义不大,可以不看嘛

我早说过了,只是列表,让喜欢这游戏的和奖杯党了解奖杯数量和比例,已判断购不购入或何时购入。这不是攻略,我基本都是发离发售还有几星期的游戏的列表,哪找攻略。。。
中文翻译也说好几遍了,一没时间,二不是我玩过的和不感兴趣的不作翻译,以免出错

期待你以后的意义大的奖杯列表
作者: nbshj001    时间: 2010-10-23 20:38
下面是引用andy_0209于2010-10-23 10:50发表的:
说反了吧,铜杯在游戏里算少的。。。。。。才26个
而且银杯也很少
所以我猜20隐藏里会有不少金杯


3金8银36铜,=神秘海域,48个奖杯,1230点标准配置
-------------------------------------------------------------------

SAW一代,1白金2金13银31铜=47个,1215点


2代奖杯总数:
1白金4银26铜+20隐藏=51

3金5银42铜常见配置,总计51个奖杯

所以可以得出结论,2代至多3个金杯
作者: satosi    时间: 2010-10-23 20:47
下面是引用andy_0209于2010-10-23 18:02发表的:


你这话说的,对你意义不大,可以不看嘛

我早说过了,只是列表,让喜欢这游戏的和奖杯党了解奖杯数量和比例,已判断购不购入或何时购入。这不是攻略,我基本都是发离发售还有几星期的游戏的列表,哪找攻略。。。
.......
如有冒犯,還請無視之
另外沒有注解的話,還不如就寫個獎盃金銀銅杯的總計,這樣看上去更加直觀,還可以寫上點數等資料供獎盃黨參考,只是個人建議而已
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-23 21:39
下面是引用nbshj001于23-10-2010 20:38发表的:



3金8银36铜,=神秘海域,48个奖杯,1230点标准配置
-------------------------------------------------------------------
.......

按你说的
3金8银36铜,=神秘海域,48个奖杯,1230点标准配置
本作4银26铜,远小于正常数量,所以金杯多很正常


而你说的根据奖杯数量推奖杯比例,有点不靠谱,况且有的游戏往往不按常理出牌。至多3金这一结论有一定可能性,但不是绝对。

以下是隐藏奖杯:
1.Henry Jacobs-Freed Henry from trap
2.Sarah Blalock-Freed Sarah from trap
3.Joseph Poltzer-Freed Joseph from trap
4.Carla Song-Freed Carla from trap
5.Solomon Bates-Freed Solomon from trap
6.Battering Ram-Defeated "The Bullish Man"
7.Now THAT'S using your head!-Escaped "The Bullish Man"
8.Third time's the charm-Subdued the "Bullish Man"
9.Hedgehog's Dilemma-Donovan died
10.Firefighter-Barry died
11.Did i fire 6 shots or only 5...-Joseph died
12.Hands off-Zeke died
13.Compassion-Saved a person that you didn't have to
14.Would you like to play a game?-Completed the Eye Surgery Minigame
15.You wasted your life-Played on Christmas
16.It must be SAW-Played on Halloween
17.Path of Blood-Campbell survived his test
18.Path of Flesh-Campbell did not survive his test
19.Brought to you by,...-Watch the credits without skipping
20.Old school-Entered the legendary konami Code

据我观察,1-12,15,16,19,20必不是金杯,所以推本作应该2-4金,这样才比较有逻辑LOL
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-23 21:47
下面是引用satosi于23-10-2010 20:47发表的:

如有冒犯,還請無視之
另外沒有注解的話,還不如就寫個獎盃金銀銅杯的總計,這樣看上去更加直觀,還可以寫上點數等資料供獎盃黨參考,只是個人建議而已

总计的话,之前有翻译的有写过。但像这作20隐藏,还都是主要杯子,标出来没什么意义
点数的话,反而不直观,至少对我来说,我是根据金银杯数,大概判断出提升的百分比,而且我参考的网站没标出来,不至于要我算吧
作者: krizalidtse    时间: 2010-10-23 21:50
收集要素比较多....日志就有50编,录音带和拼图各都25(没记错的话)....
其他基本是剧情的...

这作解迷难度比第一作增加了不少,奖杯还是一样属于收集型
作者: pksonic    时间: 2010-10-23 22:48
白金难度增加啦。。
作者: nbshj001    时间: 2010-10-23 23:09
4金绝无可能,1230点是标准也是封顶
楼主等出金银铜列表吧。
作者: elelunicy    时间: 2010-10-23 23:44
没错......
一般51杯的游戏按最高封顶的1230点算,可能有如下的配置法
0金20银30铜
1金15银34铜
2金10银38铜
3金5银42铜
4金0银46铜
而现在已经有了4银,所以就不可能出现4金
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-24 11:25
下面是引用nbshj001于23-10-2010 23:09发表的:
4金绝无可能,1230点是标准也是封顶
楼主等出金银铜列表吧。


连封顶数据都出来了,总分有了,奖杯数量有了,剩下只是简单的数学问题了,不用等列表了,按你提供的数据像LS所列的金杯必不超过3 。。。
不过这和你最开始1楼的言论已经不一样了吧,当初你只是单纯觉得铜杯多导致金杯少。。。
作者: nbshj001    时间: 2010-10-24 11:50
下面是引用andy_0209于2010-10-24 11:25发表的:



连封顶数据都出来了,总分有了,奖杯数量有了,剩下只是简单的数学问题了,不用等列表了,按你提供的数据像LS所列的金杯必不超过3 。。。
不过这和你最开始1楼的言论已经不一样了吧,当初你只是单纯觉得铜杯多导致金杯少。。。

什么不一样?铜杯多了金杯自然不会太多,下面的帖子不是给了分析,楼主如果觉得有人提不同意见你不爽的话,以后不回你帖子就是了。没必要浪费时间
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-10-24 17:51
你看出我不爽了吗?我一直说话挺客气的。。。
铜杯多了金杯自然不会太多,这我当然知道。可是铜杯不算隐藏的话并不多,只有26个,你之后为了证明你的金杯少的观点,完全用了分数计算排除的方法,而非之前的“铜杯多了金杯自然不会太多”来大概判断的方法。。。而我也没否认你的观点和之后的方法,最开始我只是觉得铜杯和银杯都很少,猜测会有不少金杯。最后看了你们两位的数据后,不也同意金杯是2到3个。
作者: 泡泡温泉    时间: 2010-10-24 17:59
下面是引用krizalidtse于2010-10-23 21:50发表的:
收集要素比较多....日志就有50编,录音带和拼图各都25(没记错的话)....
其他基本是剧情的...

这作解迷难度比第一作增加了不少,奖杯还是一样属于收集型


录音带是20。

反正要2周目而且要素继承,问题还是不大。解迷难度倒不是问题,小游戏奖杯不能stack实在蛋疼。
作者: krizalidtse    时间: 2010-10-25 00:15
下面是引用泡泡温泉于2010-10-24 17:59发表的:



录音带是20。

.......
拿到7个BILLY也是有难度。。。

每个BILLY之前的机关比“BOSS”关还难,印象就最深就是国际象棋那里
作者: gdown    时间: 2010-10-31 16:04
我卡在国际象棋这里了 不会下棋 密码无果啊
作者: krizalidtse    时间: 2010-11-1 10:33
下面是引用gdown于2010-10-31 16:04发表的:
我卡在国际象棋这里了 不会下棋 密码无果啊
那个就是为了拿BILLY

国际象棋不会下也没关系,旁边有本册子教你怎样下。。。
电视机我记得是马象王。。。(马走日,象走斜,王横直斜均可每次走一格)
按马象王的走法对应吃到哪个子,那个子上面有数字组起来就是密码
作者: 海马濑人    时间: 2010-11-23 10:37
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楼上各位不用争了.1白金2金9银39铜.我已经白了,你呢?

作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-11-23 17:57
。。。。。。看看当时讨论的时间

作者: 海马濑人    时间: 2010-11-23 18:20
看看讨论了这么长时间有没有讨论出究竟多少杯..........
作者: andy_0209    时间: 2010-11-23 21:29
那是发售前猜测,后来nbshj001用了个分值的方法证明,现在游戏都发售这么久了,你再来说也没意思,隐藏奖杯我也早公布了。。。




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